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		<title>By: Sharolyn Maedche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharolyn Maedche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for an educational blog. I&#039;ve been searching for this type of data for some time now.</description>
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		<title>By: Dorie Sparkman</title>
		<link>http://blog.nationalpartnership.org/index.php/2012/02/through-the-looking-glass/comment-page-1/#comment-27180</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorie Sparkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I paid real money for my dad&#039;s treatment at a Catholic run hospital. I also make up the property tax they don&#039;t pay. Perhaps if the Church were my not so overly obsessed with sex,theirs and everyone else&#039;s,we could all just go about our distaste lives and not bother each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid real money for my dad&#8217;s treatment at a Catholic run hospital. I also make up the property tax they don&#8217;t pay. Perhaps if the Church were my not so overly obsessed with sex,theirs and everyone else&#8217;s,we could all just go about our distaste lives and not bother each other.</p>
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		<title>By: ElizabethGS</title>
		<link>http://blog.nationalpartnership.org/index.php/2012/02/through-the-looking-glass/comment-page-1/#comment-27161</link>
		<dc:creator>ElizabethGS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeanne: utter nonsense. Sorry to have to be so blunt. President Obama is a socialist as much as I&#039;m a Martian. Healthcare for women which has included contraception for AGES has nothing remotely whatsoever to do with &#039;socialism&#039; or &#039;a stab in the back&#039; to Catholics. Perhaps you paid no attention to the actual statistics cited by Debra (which are entirely true, btw). NINETY-EIGHT PERCENT of Catholic Women already use Contraception! What part of that fact are you choosing to ignore? Just because the Catholic MALES who run the Church as a business are up in arms, the women are quietly going about their own personal business using contraception because they don&#039;t buy into the Church&#039;s view of them as brood mares/property of their husbands with no rights of their own. 

No one has infringed on ANY Church&#039;s right to practice their religion. In fact those self-same religious institutions are infringing on MY rights to not live in a secular society without hearing their non-stop religious preaching or having their rules imposed upon me. Freedom of AND from religion is what this Country was founded upon, argue it six ways from Sunday if you like, I have the Constitution on my side. IF they insist on getting perks from the government, then they abide by the rules. Period. They want tax-exempt status AS a Church, obey the rules to provide proper healthcare IN their businesses to everyone. Or give up your tax exempt status. It&#039;s very straight forward. Why should I pay for YOUR church&#039;s exemptions? You&#039;re infringing on MY rights, then. Perhaps you might stop listening to the likes of Rick Santorum and your Catholic Bishops and please do some actual critical thinking of your own. This nonsense of labeling the President with a &#039;socialist&#039; label because you read it somewhere or heard it in Church IS just that - nonsense. If caring about women&#039;s health makes him a socialist, then you can label every woman who&#039;s used contraception a socialist and every woman who cares about their own and their childrens&#039; health a socialist; every American who gives to those less fortunate than themselves a socialist. What about Food kitchens run by those self-same Churches..aren&#039;t they &#039;socialist&#039; in nature? In fact - go ahead: Label us all &#039;socialists&#039;. I&#039;ll wear the label proudly if it means I&#039;m not a narrow-minded religious bigot who can&#039;t see further than my own nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeanne: utter nonsense. Sorry to have to be so blunt. President Obama is a socialist as much as I&#8217;m a Martian. Healthcare for women which has included contraception for AGES has nothing remotely whatsoever to do with &#8216;socialism&#8217; or &#8216;a stab in the back&#8217; to Catholics. Perhaps you paid no attention to the actual statistics cited by Debra (which are entirely true, btw). NINETY-EIGHT PERCENT of Catholic Women already use Contraception! What part of that fact are you choosing to ignore? Just because the Catholic MALES who run the Church as a business are up in arms, the women are quietly going about their own personal business using contraception because they don&#8217;t buy into the Church&#8217;s view of them as brood mares/property of their husbands with no rights of their own. </p>
<p>No one has infringed on ANY Church&#8217;s right to practice their religion. In fact those self-same religious institutions are infringing on MY rights to not live in a secular society without hearing their non-stop religious preaching or having their rules imposed upon me. Freedom of AND from religion is what this Country was founded upon, argue it six ways from Sunday if you like, I have the Constitution on my side. IF they insist on getting perks from the government, then they abide by the rules. Period. They want tax-exempt status AS a Church, obey the rules to provide proper healthcare IN their businesses to everyone. Or give up your tax exempt status. It&#8217;s very straight forward. Why should I pay for YOUR church&#8217;s exemptions? You&#8217;re infringing on MY rights, then. Perhaps you might stop listening to the likes of Rick Santorum and your Catholic Bishops and please do some actual critical thinking of your own. This nonsense of labeling the President with a &#8216;socialist&#8217; label because you read it somewhere or heard it in Church IS just that &#8211; nonsense. If caring about women&#8217;s health makes him a socialist, then you can label every woman who&#8217;s used contraception a socialist and every woman who cares about their own and their childrens&#8217; health a socialist; every American who gives to those less fortunate than themselves a socialist. What about Food kitchens run by those self-same Churches..aren&#8217;t they &#8216;socialist&#8217; in nature? In fact &#8211; go ahead: Label us all &#8216;socialists&#8217;. I&#8217;ll wear the label proudly if it means I&#8217;m not a narrow-minded religious bigot who can&#8217;t see further than my own nose.</p>
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		<title>By: LillaKat</title>
		<link>http://blog.nationalpartnership.org/index.php/2012/02/through-the-looking-glass/comment-page-1/#comment-27155</link>
		<dc:creator>LillaKat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Btw the above not affiliated with the Roman Rite Catholic Christian Church whatever).

Jeanne: I can see how you&#039;d feel that way, but Obama wasn&#039;t at undermining Roman Catholic teachings--he was saying that R. Catholic *hospitals*--which often treat *non*-Roman Catholics as well as those of their faith--would be required for to *cover* (pay for) the contraceptives that are approved by FDA--the actual prescribing of them is optional and based on the individual patient&#039;s dialoguing with their primary care physician and/or gynecologist about what the best approach is for them.
It&#039;s basically saying--in response to your thing re religious freedoms--that Roman  Catholic Church run *hospitals* cannot force *their* religious beliefs regarding contraception on patients who might not *share* their Roman Rite Catholic Christian beliefs--because R. Catholic hospitals do indeed treat anyone and everyone under their insurance regardless of faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Btw the above not affiliated with the Roman Rite Catholic Christian Church whatever).</p>
<p>Jeanne: I can see how you&#8217;d feel that way, but Obama wasn&#8217;t at undermining Roman Catholic teachings&#8211;he was saying that R. Catholic *hospitals*&#8211;which often treat *non*-Roman Catholics as well as those of their faith&#8211;would be required for to *cover* (pay for) the contraceptives that are approved by FDA&#8211;the actual prescribing of them is optional and based on the individual patient&#8217;s dialoguing with their primary care physician and/or gynecologist about what the best approach is for them.<br />
It&#8217;s basically saying&#8211;in response to your thing re religious freedoms&#8211;that Roman  Catholic Church run *hospitals* cannot force *their* religious beliefs regarding contraception on patients who might not *share* their Roman Rite Catholic Christian beliefs&#8211;because R. Catholic hospitals do indeed treat anyone and everyone under their insurance regardless of faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://blog.nationalpartnership.org/index.php/2012/02/through-the-looking-glass/comment-page-1/#comment-27152</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Jeanne, I&#039;m Catholic and I don&#039;t feel I was lied to on this issue.  Obama has pretty much catered to all faiths and the money flows BIG TIME to these faith-based agencies in the U.S.  He certainly is trying to do more for this country than any &quot;conservative&quot;, especially when it comes to taking care of the &quot;general welfare of the people&quot; AS STATED IN THE CONSTITUTION.  Republicans lie to people and make them think they&#039;re a religious organization and get all the &quot;single-issue&quot; voters who fall for their buzz words like &quot;abortion, contraception, gays, entitlements, etc.&quot;.  Meanwhile they&#039;ve got their money in your pockets on a daily basis to support their rich cronies.

Soon you, as a woman, will NOT have any rights ... possibly not to work outside the home or to vote.  Your choices on how many children to have will be taken away.  You will NOT receive help to raise all the babies that Republicans will force you to have.  Additionally, they are working on not even helping you if you&#039;re a victim of domestic violence or rape.  They want to make it so a cop doesn&#039;t have to arrest an abusive husband, even if they see your eyes swollen shut, your limbs broken, cuts, bruises and stab wounds.  They want to require the cop to actually SEE THE ABUSE TAKING PLACE.  So they would leave you there with the abuser, so he could finish off the job if he wished.

&quot;Socialism&quot; is another of the Republican &quot;buzz words&quot; being used to attack this president.  All these organizations have been in place, AND our rights, for decades.  He has compromised and given in to the other side REPEATEDLY to the point where he lost much of his base.  It is the REPUBLICANS who stab us in the back and who won&#039;t cooperate and have publicly declared they will obstruct and do whatever they have to, even if the country fails, just so Obama is a 1-term president.  They are pouring BILLIONS of dollars into the campaign to try to BUY the Presidency via lies and distortions via THEIR CORPORATE-OWNED MEDIA.  I think, Jeanne, you need to wise up instead of sitting there safely behind your little computer and calling the president &quot;socialist&quot; because you want to protect un-born fetuses ... YET your side believe pro-life ENDS at birth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Jeanne, I&#8217;m Catholic and I don&#8217;t feel I was lied to on this issue.  Obama has pretty much catered to all faiths and the money flows BIG TIME to these faith-based agencies in the U.S.  He certainly is trying to do more for this country than any &#8220;conservative&#8221;, especially when it comes to taking care of the &#8220;general welfare of the people&#8221; AS STATED IN THE CONSTITUTION.  Republicans lie to people and make them think they&#8217;re a religious organization and get all the &#8220;single-issue&#8221; voters who fall for their buzz words like &#8220;abortion, contraception, gays, entitlements, etc.&#8221;.  Meanwhile they&#8217;ve got their money in your pockets on a daily basis to support their rich cronies.</p>
<p>Soon you, as a woman, will NOT have any rights &#8230; possibly not to work outside the home or to vote.  Your choices on how many children to have will be taken away.  You will NOT receive help to raise all the babies that Republicans will force you to have.  Additionally, they are working on not even helping you if you&#8217;re a victim of domestic violence or rape.  They want to make it so a cop doesn&#8217;t have to arrest an abusive husband, even if they see your eyes swollen shut, your limbs broken, cuts, bruises and stab wounds.  They want to require the cop to actually SEE THE ABUSE TAKING PLACE.  So they would leave you there with the abuser, so he could finish off the job if he wished.</p>
<p>&#8220;Socialism&#8221; is another of the Republican &#8220;buzz words&#8221; being used to attack this president.  All these organizations have been in place, AND our rights, for decades.  He has compromised and given in to the other side REPEATEDLY to the point where he lost much of his base.  It is the REPUBLICANS who stab us in the back and who won&#8217;t cooperate and have publicly declared they will obstruct and do whatever they have to, even if the country fails, just so Obama is a 1-term president.  They are pouring BILLIONS of dollars into the campaign to try to BUY the Presidency via lies and distortions via THEIR CORPORATE-OWNED MEDIA.  I think, Jeanne, you need to wise up instead of sitting there safely behind your little computer and calling the president &#8220;socialist&#8221; because you want to protect un-born fetuses &#8230; YET your side believe pro-life ENDS at birth.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheriel Jensen</title>
		<link>http://blog.nationalpartnership.org/index.php/2012/02/through-the-looking-glass/comment-page-1/#comment-27150</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheriel Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jeanne,

The Catholic Church has no business in personal decisions of women.  Their attempt to rule the lives of women is based on no first hand or even close experience, no understanding, no actual facts and no science.  The Catholic Church is run entirely by men who have first and foremost forsaken any relationship with women and who protect those among them (many of them) who have sexually assaulted children for their demented criminal proclivities.  The congregation who funds them are their actual enablers and thus also criminals.  The entire Catholic Church leadership should be in jail for covering up crimes against children.  And to accept their pronouncements as if they are legitimate is absurd.  They are worse than the Taliban.  

They have taken over hospitals throughout the country.  Many communities have no alternative health care.  Women who work there are just as needful of real medical care at a reasonable price as any other women.  

If you let the Catholic Church punish you for sex by forcing you into unwanted pregnancy or to carry an unwanted pregnancy, that is about as sick as anything could possibly be.  Punish sex by forcing the creation of a child?  How could such a child possibly become a confidant, loving, competent person having been the product of duress and unwantedness?  The Catholic criminals are doing everything in their power to degrade the human race.

Until you sign up to receive already frozen blastocysts and carry them to term, one after another, I do not believe a word you have to say on this subject, as you really do not care about continuing &#039;life,&#039; just about making others do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jeanne,</p>
<p>The Catholic Church has no business in personal decisions of women.  Their attempt to rule the lives of women is based on no first hand or even close experience, no understanding, no actual facts and no science.  The Catholic Church is run entirely by men who have first and foremost forsaken any relationship with women and who protect those among them (many of them) who have sexually assaulted children for their demented criminal proclivities.  The congregation who funds them are their actual enablers and thus also criminals.  The entire Catholic Church leadership should be in jail for covering up crimes against children.  And to accept their pronouncements as if they are legitimate is absurd.  They are worse than the Taliban.  </p>
<p>They have taken over hospitals throughout the country.  Many communities have no alternative health care.  Women who work there are just as needful of real medical care at a reasonable price as any other women.  </p>
<p>If you let the Catholic Church punish you for sex by forcing you into unwanted pregnancy or to carry an unwanted pregnancy, that is about as sick as anything could possibly be.  Punish sex by forcing the creation of a child?  How could such a child possibly become a confidant, loving, competent person having been the product of duress and unwantedness?  The Catholic criminals are doing everything in their power to degrade the human race.</p>
<p>Until you sign up to receive already frozen blastocysts and carry them to term, one after another, I do not believe a word you have to say on this subject, as you really do not care about continuing &#8216;life,&#8217; just about making others do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgia Platts</title>
		<link>http://blog.nationalpartnership.org/index.php/2012/02/through-the-looking-glass/comment-page-1/#comment-27145</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgia Platts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeanne: Seriously? How is allowing women to follow the dictates of their conscience, instead of following the edicts of the Catholic Church, an attack on religious liberty? Are the religious beliefs of the Bishops all that matter? Especially when it&#039;s WOMEN&#039;S bodies at stake, and not the bishops?

My religious beliefs allow for the use of contraception. I don&#039;t want to be limited by another church&#039;s beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeanne: Seriously? How is allowing women to follow the dictates of their conscience, instead of following the edicts of the Catholic Church, an attack on religious liberty? Are the religious beliefs of the Bishops all that matter? Especially when it&#8217;s WOMEN&#8217;S bodies at stake, and not the bishops?</p>
<p>My religious beliefs allow for the use of contraception. I don&#8217;t want to be limited by another church&#8217;s beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
		<link>http://blog.nationalpartnership.org/index.php/2012/02/through-the-looking-glass/comment-page-1/#comment-27144</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeanne, what planet are you living on? This has nothing to do with religion or birth control, this has everything to do with Womens health and their right to make their own decisions regarding their bodies. Is this truly your thoughts or are you being swayed by the MAN at the pulpit? Think about it before you answer yourself. Don&#039;t you want the freedom to control your health, family size, and your future? I do! Are those who are against womens health going to pay the bills when you have to see a doctor or go the the hospital because they think that it is immoral to take birth control for an unrelated cause to reproduction? Are these same men going to raise and support your child when you don&#039;t have the means to support yourself much less an infant? I think practicality should step in somewhere and idealology be put back in its place. This is not an ideal world, nor will it ever be in our lifetime. Give it a rest and lets do what we can do to help people survive in the real world. Why do people have to make life so difficult on others that have nothing to do with them? CONTROLING women is what is at issue, heaven forbid women are given equal rights of men, they just might prove to be better leaders of this country and be more humane about it. We&#039;ve given men plenty of time to make this world a better place and look at what they&#039;ve done with their opportunity? There are always exceptions to every rule, not all men or women are created equal, but we are all of equal worth and deserve equal footing. Lets put pride and idealism aside and take a look at whats really going on. Why do you think it is a known fact that women should be educated before men, because they will educate the children. Shouldn&#039;t that tell you something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeanne, what planet are you living on? This has nothing to do with religion or birth control, this has everything to do with Womens health and their right to make their own decisions regarding their bodies. Is this truly your thoughts or are you being swayed by the MAN at the pulpit? Think about it before you answer yourself. Don&#8217;t you want the freedom to control your health, family size, and your future? I do! Are those who are against womens health going to pay the bills when you have to see a doctor or go the the hospital because they think that it is immoral to take birth control for an unrelated cause to reproduction? Are these same men going to raise and support your child when you don&#8217;t have the means to support yourself much less an infant? I think practicality should step in somewhere and idealology be put back in its place. This is not an ideal world, nor will it ever be in our lifetime. Give it a rest and lets do what we can do to help people survive in the real world. Why do people have to make life so difficult on others that have nothing to do with them? CONTROLING women is what is at issue, heaven forbid women are given equal rights of men, they just might prove to be better leaders of this country and be more humane about it. We&#8217;ve given men plenty of time to make this world a better place and look at what they&#8217;ve done with their opportunity? There are always exceptions to every rule, not all men or women are created equal, but we are all of equal worth and deserve equal footing. Lets put pride and idealism aside and take a look at whats really going on. Why do you think it is a known fact that women should be educated before men, because they will educate the children. Shouldn&#8217;t that tell you something?</p>
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		<title>By: VRT</title>
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		<dc:creator>VRT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having difficulty understanding just whose religious liberty is at stake here---since 98% of Roman Catholic women of childbearing age admit to using contraception. And I have read a lot about the Plan B medications--to call them abortifacients is really stretching the scientific information beyond recognition. As Nicholas Kristof wrote in his column last week, access to contraception is an important tool in fighting poverty (not to mention reducing the number of abortions) and shocking numbers of women don&#039;t utilize contraceptives fully due to the expense. I am a Roman Catholic woman and it is heartbreaking to watch all of this unfold. It has shaken my faith even more than the sex abuse crisis did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having difficulty understanding just whose religious liberty is at stake here&#8212;since 98% of Roman Catholic women of childbearing age admit to using contraception. And I have read a lot about the Plan B medications&#8211;to call them abortifacients is really stretching the scientific information beyond recognition. As Nicholas Kristof wrote in his column last week, access to contraception is an important tool in fighting poverty (not to mention reducing the number of abortions) and shocking numbers of women don&#8217;t utilize contraceptives fully due to the expense. I am a Roman Catholic woman and it is heartbreaking to watch all of this unfold. It has shaken my faith even more than the sex abuse crisis did.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen McCormick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen McCormick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot one thing.  When the church wants to pay taxes and voice their opinion, then I might listen.  They are removed from this discussion because of that very fact.  They should leave this discussion alone or pay up the billions and billions of dollars that they should pay our government in taxes with all the politicizing they have been involved in lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot one thing.  When the church wants to pay taxes and voice their opinion, then I might listen.  They are removed from this discussion because of that very fact.  They should leave this discussion alone or pay up the billions and billions of dollars that they should pay our government in taxes with all the politicizing they have been involved in lately.</p>
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